Posts Tagged With: Fuel pump

Starting to sort things out

Yesterday my garage became far less empty with the visit to the parent’s farm.

Last night I disassembled one of the carbs I got at the farm and recovered one very important piece that was broken in the car, a float retainer clip.  I popped it into the car and gave it a whirl.  No noticeable difference in operation, but one less thing broken on the car!

just a couple carbs getting ready for rebuilding or whatever.

just a couple carbs getting ready for rebuilding or whatever.

I went through some other things last night, but I’m still dealing with an annoying cold and found myself tucked into bed at an unusually early hour.

Today, I decided it was time to find a matching fuel pump and replace the one in the 1947.

I brought home a box of fuel pumps so the likelihood of me finding an identical replacement was high, so it didn’t take long until I found a match.

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Box of fuel pumps from who knows how many different automobile manufacturers.

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Comparing two fuel pumps made life a lot easier

I started playing with the box find and felt that it was in reasonable shape and appeared to be in operating condition.  Once I got the existing pump off of the car I then started to A/B compare them and noticed that the existing pump actually seemed to operate better.  But when I tipped it on it’s side, a ton of debris came out. I then used the box pump as a test dummy and started disassembly.  I quickly found out how to clean the Dodge pump of its debris and decided it was still the better of the two, so I put it back in the car, all cleaned up and ready for gasoline.

Now, I lack almost all tools required to work on cars, and everything I do have is basically loaner gear from my brother Don, so I measured gas flow using my eyeballs.  I have an inline fuel filter hooked up and I would start the engine and look at the flow through the filter to see how much gas went through the filter.  Yesterday it was hardly trickling.  So tonight I fired up the Dodge and ran to the filter to give it another look.  The trickle had turned into a steady flow.  Still probably not what I need, but an improvement.  My brain tells me that the little inline filter should get completely filled with gasoline, but mine stays half full.

I ran to the throttle again and turned off the choke, revved it up a couple times and it didn’t try to immediately bog out and stall.  This makes me think the fuel pump is the center of a few of my major problems right now(number 1 being that i need the choke out to drive, number 2 that after 10 minutes of driving, the car starts acting like it is running out of gas)

I had to shut her off right away because of one last thing today.

The engine could really use a rebuild.  I’d like to tackle it myself, but not until I have either #1 tons of money or #2 tons of warm space to work on it.  I learned that the head gasket leaks water when the engine is cooling down.  It’s an old copper gasket, but at the time I felt it was in good shape and I would use it again.  I probably should have purchased a new fancy gasket when I put the head back on, but I’ll save that for next time the head comes off.

What I did this afternoon was use one of those ‘head gasket in a can’ products.  I poured a chunky mixture of copper and string and goop into the radiator and ran the motor in spurts according to the directions.  After the whole ordeal was done, the gasket did stop leaking, but I wonder for how long.  I also wonder what other side effects the product will have on the cooling system.

I don’t find myself particularly concerned though as I should mention again that the engine does need to be rebuilt.

So tomorrow afternoon the cure time should be complete for that gasket in a can mumbo jumbo.  I’m going to flush the system one more time and fill her up with water to give it a whirl around the block.  Actually, I’m going to drive it until I am confident that my fuel starvation problems are still there, or have been solved by my fuel pump cleaning.  Then hopefully I’ll shut her off and the only thing that’ll come out of the engine is motor oil.

But you can always add more oil.

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You’ve just got to turn that frown upside-down!

That’s a smile, not an upside-down frown! Work on that, too!

ImageGas tank still leaks.  That’s just the way it’s gonna be.  66 years of being on this earth is bound to wear most things down.

I’m not just going to sit around and do nothing though, I’ve got plentyto do besides browse the web looking for that  perfect gas tank that also costs half as much as it should with twice as many features. (pssst, somebody please have a spare 1940s dodge gas tank sitting in their garage just taking up space)

There’s fun to be had under that hood.

When I was going through my gas tank drama the other day, the icing on the cake was that a fuel line was leaking by my fuel pump.   I didn’t understand why, so tonight I removed it to further investigate.

ImageThere was two fittings with one piece of cut off metal fuel line, the metal fuel line had a flare at the end which had some distress.  I cleaned the surfaces and tried to put everything back together.  I blew on the fitting and air came out.  I disassembled and tried again.  Finally, after some serious wrenching and hammering, i got it air(and hopefully gas) tight.  I reattached it to the fuel pump and added an inline fuel filter.  Tightened everything back in and stopped that obnoxious little leak dead in its tracks.

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I went to the parts store to replace the fan belt that Myrna and I picked up last week, as it was the right length but the wrong width.  They had to special order it, so not to leave empty handed I purchased some JB Weld.   Regular old JB Weld.  They sell various other forms and formulas, including gas tank repair forms… but the consistency of straight up JB weld is what I am the most familiar with.

I basically coated the entire exposed (and swiss cheese related) corner of the tank with the JB Weld and hoped for a miracle.

Now, JB weld is a two part epoxy.  And somewhere in the near future I think I need to go to ‘two part epoxy mixing school’ as my sister can probably attest to.  As I don’t always seem to get it right.

ImageAll you have to do is dispense equal portions of both tubes, mix thoroughly and apply to a surface.  25 minutes later and it should be set, 18 hours later it should be rock solid.

Well 2 hours later and the whole darn surface was sticky to the touch.  I had to let the old Dodge down off the jack though, so I eased her down and checked the tank for leaks…  ok I see leaks… cool, where are they coming from??  Can’t tell, but I sure do have a lot of gas on my facial hair.

Back on jacks and more JB weld applied…. the waiting continues.

So, anways.  Good day.  I finally did get that fan belt on the car.  Did get a fuel filter and stop one leak… and the gas tank at least looks cool.

Oh, and all the lights still work.

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Two steps back

I think we’ve all heard that saying, “one step forward and two steps back.” Well, we’re living that saying with the Dodge right now.

It’s frustrating to say the least.

Here’s the deal:  Joel sent me a text late last night with a picture

Fuel Tank Holes

More than one hole – Bummer

and a text: “Gas tank is rotten.”

Followed by, “It’s almost as if the whole top of the tank was held together with dirt.”

Long story short, we need a new gas tank.

Okay. We can do that, I guess. We just need to find a tank. And some money to buy the tank 🙂 Pretty sure money grows on trees so we’re good to go!

Here’s the long story: Joel picked up an epoxy tank repair kit yesterday and planned to patch the “pinhole” in the gas tank after work last night (I mentioned this leak in the post from yesterday, Leaks and more leaks).  He was able to access the tank through the wheel well by removing a rear wheel  and get to the tank without having to do major gymnastics. That’s the good news.

Joel cleaned up the area to patch and….found more than one hole. He found several holes. He found that caked on dirt/grease was probably keeping gas in that tank more so than its metal walls. He found that the tank is aluminum foil thin in places and “basically rusted through. It’s sort of terrible 🙂 ” Joel said via text. It’s possible that the tank was patched long ago and the patch from the past was falling apart in his hands. It’s also just possible that the tank has numerous holes from sitting so long partially full of gas and condensation worked its magic and made many little holes over the years.

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And more holes to patch 😦

With many leaking holes and the epoxy patch kit, Joel worked as quickly as he could to patch as many  holes as he could. Joel said when he patched  a hole he’d get a good feeling  because the fuel stopped leaking on the spot. Instant gratification! A good feeling that quickly left when he looked at the next hole that needed to be patched.

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A successful fuel tank patch!

Joel also discovered  that when you put $20 of gas in the tank and have several leaks in the tank and a leaking fuel pump to boot you end up with, oh, $15 worth of gas on the garage floor by the end of the night. And you also find yourself very, very frustrated. After an hour or so of frantically patching leaks, Joel gave up, put buckets under everything that was still leaking,  headed in the house, and called it a night.

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And a leaky fuel pump 😦

We could try a couple more things to patch the tank. Or we could buy a new tank. We’re planning to get a new tank. And a new fuel pump. We never thought this project would be cheap. Or easy.

But we knew it would be an adventure!

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